Have you done your part?

@PlayingWithScience
Can't believe they still make these but:

Perhaps this can the basis for our future agreement.

Probably the Alliance's fault.

There are people on this board who not only possess the most sincere and purest hearts this side of Dr. Seuss, but their own private forms of space transport.

Make enquiries.

At least you would be off the crater. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

If you read carefully my original post I did point out that there were both combat roles (military) and support rolls (non-military.) We need both.


If you read carefully may original post we only asked people to keep an eye out and report crimes to the proper authority, nothing more.


This raises an interesting question, but I can assure you that your daughter is eligible to receive any and all benefits just like any other Systems Alliance citizen, further more I do not really understand why you would think that it would be 'treason.'


If a marine during his duty demands you to buy a drink, or if Embassy staffers demand you dance then they are most certainly giving you illegal orders, and you should report them as soon as possible to the nearest MP station.

How very droll.

Oh you're so clever aren't you? According to the colonists everything is the Alliance's fault right? Wrong. I'm not discussing my problem with you but rest assured your precious Alliance has nothing to do with my blindness.

Oh god you're right. How stupid and cynical of me to believe that some random person on the internet would offer us a ticket off this dump for no charge. I feel so foolish for my lack of faith in the selflessness and charitable demeanor of sapient beings beings everywhere.

Oh wait. I don't. Because I'm not a naive idiot.

I think you must be high. Or retarded. Or just the most patronizing bitch in the history of the universe. Probably the last.

LADIES, PLEASE.

Well, if you have to say it...

Your arguments long ago became ad hominems and stupidity. Talk to me again if you feel like making a real argument. Good night.

Stay warm.

Oh, please, keep it up, everyone, I'm sure we can grind this lot down to a fine powder to sprinkle on the graves of the honoured dead before Christmas at this rate. Only just over a year gone since the Reapers were beaten and we're making humanity - not just the Alliance, all of humanity - look like tools and fools of the finest calibre? This is - excuse my language, Lt. Stockwell, I appreciate this is your show and was hardly what you planned - a fucking disgraceful display on a public forum regarding what was originally a fairly tame recruitment piece. And people wonder why the isolationists piss on the flags of the Alliance whenever they feel like it when this is how we decide to represent ourselves, and they wonder why the Alliance regards the independence movements as nothing but grouchy hicks when they act like it!

Ms. Proctor, perhaps you have another Faberge egg to devour, or harass someone with, some actual paperwork to do, or even something that does not actively require you antagonizing everyone with an omni-tool? Or, at the very least, stop dragging the entire Alliance down with your own reputation? I don't know, I'd have thought you would have wondered off to go get bored at another political do if this place causes you so much stress dealing with the sort of people you're supposed to represent.

And Ms. ...PWS, perhaps if you dedicated your time to something other than sparring with an admittedly highly caustic woman, you might actually be able to improve your own situation without making yourself sound like a walking, breathing definition of everything that is presently wrong with Alliance settlement policy. Yes, you are blind, and I am highly sorry for that. However, unless an Alliance soldier personally gouged out your corneas and cooked them like egg yolks, kindly have the common courtesy not to act as if and treat everyone on Earth as if they, and by extension every member of the Alliance, did just because of your present situation. You only make yourself look worse and more, frankly, excessive, by doing so.

The Alliance, and yes, humankind, has enough to deal with on it's plate at the moment, ladies, without you two making all of us look like arse-biting eye-gougers. Act your age and stop bickering like children on the extranet.

Sometimes, it is moments like this...debate that make me wonder how in the Pillars have you humans managed to achieve spaceflight, let alone attain a seat on the Citadel Council, in spite of your seemingly endless bickering amongst one another.

I refer you to my first paragraph. A pair of rowdy humans with nothing better to do than make us all LOOK bad does not actually make us that way. Speaking of, I'm leaving this thread before I burst a blood vessel. Fine show again, everyone.

Reading comprehension good sir! Learn it!

In any case I don't want the Alliance to pay for my eyes. I don't blame the Alliance for my eyes. What I want is for my colony to be given the time and resources to rebuild our infrastructure so we aren't freezing to death. But we're not getting that because all of our resources are requisitioned by the Alliance to go to Earth. I'm sure there are plenty of perfectly lovely people on Earth. But I'm more concerned with my friends and neighbors who are also dying of exposure due to our lack of basic infrastructure. We have a right to be angry when our government ceases to represent or even acknowledge our needs and interests.

Also I'll note that I do dedicate my time to things other than verbal sparring with Miss Proctor. I have what's left of a colony to help administrate.

First of all, may I say that I think this discussion has certainly gone past its natural threshold.

Second, let me say I certainly pity the poor sod who's job is probably to post little propaganda ditties like that. I remember when I briefly worked with the Alliance, all the poor little interns and such who were stuck doing such work. Don't criticize the messenger I say, he's innocent!


Third, I am starting to wonder in regards to Mme indépendance à des colonies why someone would actually bother to remain on such a planet, even if Iridium is the chief product. Couldn't certainly drones provide the same work without the whole "my god its as cold as a hard night in Siberia" and I can say from the words of one of my family's company's employees that if people could have survived out there without modern technology (certainly when one thinks of people like the Inuit historically) then certainly the same could be said for colonials. Not that I'm defending the words of our lovely representative here, who I must say has quite the personality. It must be hardened from budget sessions, as those always seem to be the most important work of any politician.


Finally, I will say that I consider myself a colonist. My family liked to think it had a hand in building Bekenstein, and I look forward to the day when I'm able to return (since my condition prohibits it, naturally). Certainly I can understand the frustration of the colonials in the application of power by the Alliance since the war (an old friend who I still try to keep in some touch with had all of his company's pre-fabs seized, for instance) but I can also understand why Earth is garnering all of the attention. After all, the eyes of the entire galaxy are effectively on Earth with the now being in orbit; if we weren't to focus on rebuilding her, then how would we really stand in the eyes of the others? If we cannot rebuild Earth, then why even bother with the colonies?

Be thankful for what you have, children.

Hu guys, I don't want to piss oil on the current fire, but we may consider the possibility that maybe the Alliance is taxing PlayingWithScience's colony a bit too much? Surely on such a massive undertaking, so many colonies to handle and the entire Earth to rebuild, the brass may have miscalculated taxes for some colonies.

Unity Makes Strength, who totally ignored the point I was trying to make about poor communication, which is itself poor communication, is there some way for colonials to get their taxes reconsidered if they really are in critical state?

When one considers the Alliance policy of only going after garden planets, one has to wonder why a place like Ur is colonized. Someone must really hate you people.

All tax evaluation is done by their local on-site administrator who decides how much their colony should pay in taxes and what their material contributions should be. The formulas they use to determine these amounts are provided by the Systems Alliance, but in the end its a guideline and their Administrator has the last word.

The guidelines themselves are very clear; the primary concern is to keep the colonies stable while at the same time maximizing their contribution. In effect this means is that we are very conservative in requesting life essentials, while at the same time being very aggressive in requisitioning non-life essentials like minded resources.

If PlayingWithScience has any issue she and her fellow miners should talk to the on-site colony administrator.